1 00:00:06,434 --> 00:00:10,114 It was all like a mind game to me 2 00:00:10,234 --> 00:00:13,314 This is what I enjoyed 3 00:00:13,994 --> 00:00:15,434 This... 4 00:00:17,354 --> 00:00:21,394 This will be shocking to many people 5 00:00:25,794 --> 00:00:30,594 "June 9, 2011, "Essex", "Vermont" 6 00:00:32,434 --> 00:00:35,474 Bill Carrier and Lauren Carrier have disappeared. From their home in Essex 7 00:00:35,514 --> 00:00:40,274 “I broke their garage window The home phone line was cut off. 8 00:00:40,434 --> 00:00:44,314 “Police say they have Evidence that they were kidnapped.” 9 00:00:47,194 --> 00:00:52,874 - Why did you choose them? - I didn't choose them, it was random 10 00:00:54,074 --> 00:00:58,074 I'm ready to talk about the rest... If you get a cigar 11 00:01:00,194 --> 00:01:01,594 "For every mentally disturbed person..." 12 00:01:01,714 --> 00:01:03,754 "There are indicators" 13 00:01:03,794 --> 00:01:05,114 "Indicators" 14 00:01:05,594 --> 00:01:08,314 “I would kill again.” “They are dead and I am alive.” 15 00:01:08,594 --> 00:01:10,154 "I don't think that was wrong." 16 00:01:10,594 --> 00:01:13,274 Something inside me... 17 00:01:14,234 --> 00:01:16,994 “He looks like a glutton, he looks like a wolf.” - “Would you have seen...” 18 00:01:18,114 --> 00:01:25,114 - “This is the feeling... craving.” - “Signs of a psychopath” 19 00:01:29,754 --> 00:01:33,794 After the disappearance of Bill Carrier. And "Lauren Carrier" for six months. 20 00:01:34,594 --> 00:01:38,394 “February 1, 2012, Anchorage, Alaska. 21 00:01:40,154 --> 00:01:44,914 On Wednesday, she was the café worker Samantha Kong works the evening shift 22 00:01:45,034 --> 00:01:47,834 It was planned to close the place About 8 pm 23 00:01:47,914 --> 00:01:52,714 “Surveillance camera recording confirms The greatest thing anyone could fear... 24 00:01:54,274 --> 00:01:59,434 “Police say a stranger took her "And she wants help finding her." 25 00:02:00,274 --> 00:02:02,834 I don't know if my daughter gets it Food and care... 26 00:02:02,874 --> 00:02:06,434 Whether she is alive and whether she is sleeping 27 00:02:08,674 --> 00:02:11,194 Please help find my daughter 28 00:02:13,794 --> 00:02:16,514 "kidnapped" 29 00:02:18,554 --> 00:02:21,794 "in a month" 30 00:02:22,434 --> 00:02:24,474 “Investigators monitored the use of the bank card "Her own..." 31 00:02:24,554 --> 00:02:26,874 “6,437 kilometers away In Los Angeles, Texas 32 00:02:27,514 --> 00:02:31,474 “Federal prosecutors say Israel Keyes, 34 years old... 33 00:02:31,514 --> 00:02:37,194 “He is a former soldier and independent contractor who was robbed Bank card from the café worker 34 00:02:37,954 --> 00:02:41,754 "The prosecution believes that Israel Keyes... He may be behind the disappearance of Samantha Kong. 35 00:02:43,394 --> 00:02:47,474 They brought him back to Alaska for questioning Hoping to know Samantha's fate. 36 00:02:48,434 --> 00:02:51,354 - Good morning, Israel. - Good morning 37 00:02:51,474 --> 00:02:56,114 - How are you? - Fine 38 00:03:00,154 --> 00:03:03,834 I'm not in this for fame Not for the sake of media attention 39 00:03:03,954 --> 00:03:08,234 I'm giving you information, if you feel... 40 00:03:09,434 --> 00:03:12,994 If at any point you feel things going wrong Not going well... 41 00:03:13,074 --> 00:03:17,834 In this case I will not give you More information 42 00:03:20,434 --> 00:03:24,434 My concern... The problem these days... 43 00:03:24,474 --> 00:03:28,034 The more news my name is associated with It increases the probability... 44 00:03:28,034 --> 00:03:33,594 For someone to try to make a program Stupid solo TV 45 00:03:33,794 --> 00:03:39,314 You know what's going on these days People are obsessed with true crimes 46 00:03:40,514 --> 00:03:43,474 He says he doesn't want a program TV about crime... 47 00:03:43,514 --> 00:03:50,034 But everything he says is exciting and... 48 00:03:50,074 --> 00:03:52,474 -I think he wants a TV show - “Forensic neuropsychologist” 49 00:03:52,474 --> 00:03:54,114 I see this as being due to his narcissism 50 00:03:56,274 --> 00:03:59,834 He clearly knows that it is partly his Certain control 51 00:04:00,594 --> 00:04:02,754 - He attacks and evades during the interview - "Forensic psychiatrist" 52 00:04:02,794 --> 00:04:05,474 He is the controller who leads the interview 53 00:04:05,914 --> 00:04:11,594 “Keys admitted that he was kidnapped "Samantha Kung" 54 00:04:12,514 --> 00:04:18,394 "And he only regrets one thing." 55 00:04:19,194 --> 00:04:22,114 "Anchorage was... "This was not wise." 56 00:04:22,194 --> 00:04:25,834 “I used to say to myself all the time "I'm doing this. It was a bad idea." 57 00:04:25,874 --> 00:04:28,274 “Where you don't do these jobs nearby "from where you live" 58 00:04:30,514 --> 00:04:36,874 Israel Keyes entered a coffee kiosk "Kamn Ground"... 59 00:04:37,234 --> 00:04:39,554 A few minutes before closing time at 8:00 60 00:04:41,474 --> 00:04:45,514 He tied up Samantha Kong inside the stall 61 00:04:46,874 --> 00:04:52,354 Keyes takes Samantha to his house "Forcibly bring her into the shed." 62 00:04:54,674 --> 00:05:00,554 He sexually assaulted Samantha Kong. He killed her inside the shed 63 00:05:00,674 --> 00:05:05,314 Keys then dismembered her body and disposed of the remains Her body is in Lake Matanuska. 64 00:05:07,474 --> 00:05:12,914 But Keyes' violence didn't start with... "Samantha Kung" 65 00:05:15,154 --> 00:05:19,234 “I've known since I was 14 In general, there... 66 00:05:20,274 --> 00:05:22,554 "There are things..." 67 00:05:24,234 --> 00:05:30,594 “I thought it was normal and okay for a while "There was no one else to see her that way." 68 00:05:32,314 --> 00:05:34,314 "When I was 14 years old..." 69 00:05:35,434 --> 00:05:40,914 “One of our cats was entering Always in the trash 70 00:05:41,794 --> 00:05:47,874 “There was a child and we all went into the forest "I took the cat with me." 71 00:05:51,154 --> 00:05:58,154 “I took a piece of parachute rope and tied it in the tree" 72 00:06:00,274 --> 00:06:04,074 “I had a .22 caliber pistol.” 73 00:06:05,914 --> 00:06:10,314 “That was the last time anyone came "With me to the forest" 74 00:06:13,954 --> 00:06:16,114 He looked like he was showing off 75 00:06:16,674 --> 00:06:21,954 He certainly enjoyed the impact he had This is on his friends 76 00:06:22,634 --> 00:06:25,394 - I'm sure he scared them and terrified them - "Forensic psychiatrist" 77 00:06:25,474 --> 00:06:32,314 I'm sure this was fun for him Like killing a cat, if not more 78 00:06:37,554 --> 00:06:40,274 For many troubled people Mentally... 79 00:06:40,394 --> 00:06:44,114 The smarter they are They have greater self-awareness 80 00:06:44,794 --> 00:06:51,114 And they know... they're probably gone To church and to school 81 00:06:51,554 --> 00:06:55,514 They know what society considers Wrong or correct 82 00:06:55,594 --> 00:06:57,634 I'm sure he's telling the truth 83 00:06:57,634 --> 00:07:04,034 When he was 14 years old, she... Things that the average person finds... 84 00:07:04,274 --> 00:07:09,994 Hateful and terrifying, he knew it was It wasn't any problem for him 85 00:07:10,234 --> 00:07:17,114 So he tells them he's in years His early teens... 86 00:07:17,114 --> 00:07:19,274 He was aware of his nature 87 00:07:23,594 --> 00:07:29,834 “Like a serial killer in the making, he was buried Keyes stowed his killing equipment across the country. 88 00:07:30,874 --> 00:07:33,474 How many caches of weapons do you have? 89 00:07:36,714 --> 00:07:38,394 - "Illustrated guide" -If I told you this... 90 00:07:38,434 --> 00:07:40,474 I will never be able to use it again 91 00:07:41,994 --> 00:07:45,394 I thought you told us you accepted this 92 00:07:45,594 --> 00:07:48,314 No one knows, maybe it will be the end of the world 93 00:07:50,074 --> 00:07:52,994 - Everyone loves buried treasure - Yes 94 00:07:56,914 --> 00:08:03,554 I think the scary thing about Keyes... How he killed in cold blood 95 00:08:03,594 --> 00:08:09,274 He is a conman, a manipulator, a deceiver, and covers his tracks 96 00:08:10,474 --> 00:08:16,314 He was a good planner and knew what it took The matter has a complete conception in his head 97 00:08:16,754 --> 00:08:21,914 He was prepared, he's someone who knows what he likes 98 00:08:22,274 --> 00:08:26,474 He knows the tools he needs to do so He gets the satisfaction he loves 99 00:08:26,794 --> 00:08:30,634 “Investigators need to be exposed "Keys" from the rest of his victims. 100 00:08:30,634 --> 00:08:35,154 “But he gave them a strange warning.” 101 00:08:38,714 --> 00:08:42,954 I won't talk about those things I know That you'll hook me up with her in the end... 102 00:08:42,994 --> 00:08:45,314 Unless I knew I would get what I wanted 103 00:08:46,034 --> 00:08:47,834 I want the execution date 104 00:08:49,634 --> 00:08:53,914 I want this all to happen within a year 105 00:08:54,994 --> 00:08:58,314 This was the ultimate way With it he can exercise his control 106 00:08:58,474 --> 00:09:03,674 He wanted to make sure he could determine How will his life end? 107 00:09:03,874 --> 00:09:06,634 Because he doesn't want to live In prison for years 108 00:09:08,634 --> 00:09:14,594 He was trying to negotiate and withhold information Which he has to be a bargaining chip 109 00:09:15,874 --> 00:09:22,114 I think he's an example of a psychopath, There is no doubt about this 110 00:09:23,674 --> 00:09:27,634 Well... I can give you... 111 00:09:29,034 --> 00:09:34,834 I'll give you two bodies and a name 112 00:09:39,794 --> 00:09:41,914 But I won't tell you the rest 113 00:09:42,034 --> 00:09:44,394 Can you tell us about the area? 114 00:09:45,234 --> 00:09:47,154 Burlington, Vermont 115 00:09:49,874 --> 00:09:53,994 "June 2011" 116 00:09:56,034 --> 00:10:01,554 I searched for victims for two days while... I was in that hotel 117 00:10:03,794 --> 00:10:06,034 And that's when I took them 118 00:10:09,194 --> 00:10:11,634 Who is the person we are looking for? 119 00:10:11,954 --> 00:10:15,794 The family name is "Carrer", "Kaf, Alif, Raa, Yaaa, Raaa" 120 00:10:17,194 --> 00:10:18,594 And first name? 121 00:10:18,634 --> 00:10:22,554 I don't remember their first names, They were husband and wife 122 00:10:26,514 --> 00:10:28,874 Authorities say Bill Carrier and his age 49 years...” 123 00:10:28,874 --> 00:10:33,194 His wife, Lauren Carrier, is 55 years old They went missing from their home in Vermont... 124 00:10:33,234 --> 00:10:34,794 "About a week ago" 125 00:10:34,874 --> 00:10:39,394 We are devastated by their disappearance We fear for their lives 126 00:10:39,514 --> 00:10:42,394 I think it was a mystery to me them at that time 127 00:10:42,594 --> 00:10:43,874 - Okay -What can I say... 128 00:10:43,914 --> 00:10:47,474 Is that what I didn't talk about this You will never find evidence 129 00:10:47,754 --> 00:10:51,794 Their frustration can be seen It was one of the reasons he was happy 130 00:10:51,794 --> 00:10:55,674 It could be seen that he was enjoying this This, I think, is what makes him scary 131 00:10:56,914 --> 00:11:01,634 - It was a mystery to them then - I will tell you in detail as I told you 132 00:11:05,674 --> 00:11:10,314 I know you talked about closing cases And things like that 133 00:11:10,394 --> 00:11:13,394 But I don't see it from that angle 134 00:11:13,474 --> 00:11:15,914 What's done is done, I'm just saying... 135 00:11:15,954 --> 00:11:20,994 I know there's pressure on you To find those others 136 00:11:20,994 --> 00:11:24,194 But honestly, I won't tell you this now 137 00:11:25,754 --> 00:11:27,394 I don't feel... 138 00:11:30,274 --> 00:11:32,834 With the same ethical commitment... 139 00:11:32,874 --> 00:11:38,394 I think you realize that I don't think the same The form that many people think of 140 00:11:40,074 --> 00:11:43,794 He says we're off From two different principles 141 00:11:43,874 --> 00:11:47,834 You are starting from the principle of the importance of what he feels By people 142 00:11:48,474 --> 00:11:51,754 He says he's not that type Of animals 143 00:11:55,594 --> 00:11:59,914 For the Carrier family, She told me that her selection was random 144 00:11:59,914 --> 00:12:04,314 - Was there no reason? - It was... I didn't know them 145 00:12:06,394 --> 00:12:09,674 "June 8, 2011" 146 00:12:10,994 --> 00:12:17,474 Keyes searches for his perfect victims After retrieving the killing equipment.” 147 00:12:19,354 --> 00:12:25,834 I started wandering through the city around 8 or 9 pm after dark 148 00:12:26,994 --> 00:12:31,074 I decided I would look for a house with a married couple 149 00:12:32,634 --> 00:12:37,114 Then I found that house 150 00:12:37,154 --> 00:12:41,074 It was exactly what I was looking for 151 00:12:46,994 --> 00:12:51,474 I decided I would look for a house with a married couple 152 00:12:52,314 --> 00:12:56,394 The phone lines were cut off as soon as they were selected Home because... 153 00:12:58,794 --> 00:13:02,834 Usually when there is an alarm system It will set off an alarm 154 00:13:04,514 --> 00:13:07,114 "One o'clock in the morning" 155 00:13:07,794 --> 00:13:11,234 "Keys breaks a window to get into the house." 156 00:13:12,474 --> 00:13:15,234 The light of the portable lamp was on the head Lit 157 00:13:15,674 --> 00:13:21,634 I was in the bedroom with them during 5 or 6 seconds from the time the glass is broken 158 00:13:23,874 --> 00:13:26,834 People don't expect things to happen to them 159 00:13:28,354 --> 00:13:32,234 - Do you remember what you told them? - It was a sneak attack 160 00:13:32,274 --> 00:13:37,434 They must know immediately who is in control 161 00:13:37,874 --> 00:13:42,354 Their hands and feet were tied together with ties Wired 162 00:13:43,034 --> 00:13:49,994 Keys kidnapped them and drove them home A deserted countryside he had already identified.” 163 00:13:51,874 --> 00:13:55,754 - They started trying to talk to me -They try to make it personal 164 00:13:55,794 --> 00:13:57,794 Yes 165 00:13:59,874 --> 00:14:02,674 - And I kept up with them a little - What did you tell them? 166 00:14:02,914 --> 00:14:07,394 I told them the story that it was possible Believing her so as not to shock them 167 00:14:10,394 --> 00:14:12,714 When you go into the woods with a gun 168 00:14:13,034 --> 00:14:18,194 - Don't think about what a deer or a rabbit thinks - "Forensic psychiatrist" 169 00:14:18,314 --> 00:14:20,514 This is how he sees these people 170 00:14:21,714 --> 00:14:25,314 Use "Israel Keys" Manipulative print... 171 00:14:25,314 --> 00:14:29,234 To make the husband think that he cares about them 172 00:14:30,274 --> 00:14:37,074 My plan was to rape her and it would be so He is also involved 173 00:14:39,394 --> 00:14:44,474 Keys took Bill inside the house Countryside, leaving Lauren tied to the car. 174 00:14:46,314 --> 00:14:50,994 My plan was to take him to the basement I will record it separately 175 00:14:51,234 --> 00:14:53,274 Then I take it up 176 00:14:53,674 --> 00:14:57,154 -He had plans for how it would happen - “Forensic neuropsychologist” 177 00:14:57,154 --> 00:14:59,594 Including what appears to be husband's forced... 178 00:14:59,754 --> 00:15:03,674 To watch the torture that He will introduce his wife to him 179 00:15:04,314 --> 00:15:08,874 He likes to have authority and this is it A characteristic of many mentally disturbed people 180 00:15:10,474 --> 00:15:17,354 It's all about power and appointment A person rules over death and life 181 00:15:19,034 --> 00:15:21,834 Types of serial killers who speak About them people... 182 00:15:21,834 --> 00:15:25,034 - Sometimes they do this for excitement - "Forensic psychiatrist" 183 00:15:25,074 --> 00:15:30,074 Or for lust where they get Some sexual pleasure from this 184 00:15:30,194 --> 00:15:33,314 There are some who do this For luxury 185 00:15:33,354 --> 00:15:38,114 Where they change their lives to feel well-being, There are others who do this for the love of control 186 00:15:38,674 --> 00:15:43,834 He was that type, He was in that category where... 187 00:15:43,954 --> 00:15:48,474 There is a sense of excitement in planning and executing 188 00:15:48,874 --> 00:15:55,434 It wasn't entirely about sex Although there is an element of sexual fantasy 189 00:15:55,514 --> 00:16:01,754 But it was about control and sovereignty And exploiting others 190 00:16:03,594 --> 00:16:05,834 And the degree to which he thought carefully In matters... 191 00:16:05,954 --> 00:16:10,354 I think it clearly indicates Because he was smart 192 00:16:14,874 --> 00:16:20,314 I walked him down and tied his hands with wire Down for a backless or armless chair... 193 00:16:20,394 --> 00:16:22,394 So that he cannot stand 194 00:16:23,954 --> 00:16:26,594 It must have taken me longer than that I thought... 195 00:16:26,634 --> 00:16:30,354 Because I came out of the basement She was standing next to the car 196 00:16:31,674 --> 00:16:35,914 I somehow managed to cut the laces Wired restricting her feet and hands 197 00:16:35,994 --> 00:16:39,994 She got out of the car and was almost there On the road 198 00:16:41,314 --> 00:16:43,434 She saw me outside and started running 199 00:16:43,474 --> 00:16:47,954 I pushed her down onto the grass 200 00:16:48,954 --> 00:16:50,154 And... 201 00:16:51,114 --> 00:16:54,874 I scolded her a little and tied her up again 202 00:16:56,194 --> 00:17:00,434 Keys takes Lauren up And he tied her to the bed.” 203 00:17:00,514 --> 00:17:04,794 Then he goes to get Bill back. 204 00:17:06,634 --> 00:17:10,594 He's a big, fat man and he collapsed A seat without a back or armrest 205 00:17:10,594 --> 00:17:12,514 I think when he collapsed... 206 00:17:12,634 --> 00:17:18,754 The wire ties that broke She tied his wrist behind his back 207 00:17:19,034 --> 00:17:21,234 This ruined my entire plan 208 00:17:23,314 --> 00:17:28,274 This made me angry, and he was asking I ask you to release them 209 00:17:28,994 --> 00:17:33,674 I laughed at him, I felt like he didn't know... 210 00:17:34,154 --> 00:17:38,194 How much I planned this, I can't leave 211 00:17:42,874 --> 00:17:49,234 They're just two things, they're dolls His mind uses them to fulfill a whim he has planned 212 00:17:49,754 --> 00:17:53,394 All these human pleas It doesn't make a difference to him 213 00:17:54,434 --> 00:17:59,634 I had an idea in my head of what It would happen and he was going to ruin this 214 00:18:00,594 --> 00:18:05,234 He started saying something and it made me angry I started pulling the trigger 215 00:18:10,474 --> 00:18:13,994 I was amazed at how quickly he fell 216 00:18:16,354 --> 00:18:20,154 People sometimes think they are killers Serial people have no feelings 217 00:18:20,194 --> 00:18:26,674 They have emotions and feelings and you will see them later They realize that someone is hindering their plans 218 00:18:26,954 --> 00:18:29,554 And here you will see an explosion of anger 219 00:18:30,674 --> 00:18:34,394 I don't think he intended to shoot On it so quickly 220 00:18:34,434 --> 00:18:39,114 Because he wanted to take it up to complete his game 221 00:18:39,314 --> 00:18:44,314 But he abandoned his plan because... A severe tantrum 222 00:18:45,474 --> 00:18:50,114 After killing Bill, Keyes turned his attention "To Lauren upstairs." 223 00:18:50,474 --> 00:18:53,234 I restricted her in different ways 224 00:18:54,914 --> 00:19:00,234 You can consider it a freak that has grown Over the years 225 00:19:00,314 --> 00:19:05,994 I think my penchant for restriction has increased 226 00:19:07,074 --> 00:19:09,034 I don't know why 227 00:19:09,194 --> 00:19:14,754 But it was nice, it was good 228 00:19:14,914 --> 00:19:16,714 I got everything I wanted 229 00:19:17,394 --> 00:19:23,354 He derives pleasure from the pain of others 230 00:19:23,554 --> 00:19:28,594 He anticipates the person's horrified reaction The other one, I think, finds this exciting 231 00:19:28,874 --> 00:19:33,794 This is what makes him a different person And very dangerous 232 00:19:37,714 --> 00:19:42,434 “My body has not been found "Bill Carrier" and "Lauren Carrier" cat. 233 00:19:44,234 --> 00:19:50,674 “Authorities believe he killed 11 people on... "The lowest in 12 years across several states." 234 00:19:55,794 --> 00:19:59,034 I was thinking that hypothetically... 235 00:20:04,914 --> 00:20:10,154 The best way for me to give you The information you need may be... 236 00:20:15,514 --> 00:20:18,434 I have to do this at the last minute 237 00:20:19,354 --> 00:20:22,034 So that I do not attend to the consequences of this 238 00:20:23,474 --> 00:20:26,114 Do you think this is realistic? 239 00:20:26,794 --> 00:20:29,594 Do I think this is realistic? I don't know 240 00:20:30,994 --> 00:20:35,794 It seems like this is my decision, Regardless of whether it is realistic 241 00:20:39,674 --> 00:20:44,394 “The FBI recorded more 40 hours of interrogations with “Israel” 242 00:20:44,954 --> 00:20:49,794 “But the interviews stopped On December 2, 2012" 243 00:20:52,994 --> 00:20:56,474 Found serial killer Israel Keyes. He died on Sunday morning... 244 00:20:56,554 --> 00:20:59,034 At the Anchorage Correctional Complex. 245 00:20:59,234 --> 00:21:03,274 The federal prisoner has been found Israel Keyes is dead in his prison cell 246 00:21:03,434 --> 00:21:05,634 As a result of what appears to be suicide 247 00:21:05,994 --> 00:21:08,674 Potential victims They will never know... 248 00:21:08,674 --> 00:21:13,034 Their families' suffering will not be ended, By committing suicide... 249 00:21:13,234 --> 00:21:19,034 He tells the world that he is in control, Until the last moment 250 00:21:19,354 --> 00:21:24,354 All the characteristics apply to him, his hatred, His contempt for others 251 00:21:24,994 --> 00:21:29,034 The superficiality of his feelings, his obsession with greatness 252 00:21:29,154 --> 00:21:33,234 lack of empathy, sadism, All those things 253 00:21:33,274 --> 00:21:36,194 Keyes is an example of a psychopath 254 00:21:36,474 --> 00:21:41,274 If you want to draw a picture of a real psychopath 255 00:21:41,754 --> 00:21:44,914 It is perfectly suitable for this purpose 256 00:21:46,874 --> 00:21:50,114 I don't have a bad feeling about it The things I did 257 00:21:50,154 --> 00:21:55,594 I didn't do it because I felt like it That I have no other alternatives 258 00:21:55,754 --> 00:21:57,954 You did it for me 259 00:21:59,834 --> 00:22:02,234 Everything is available if you take it 260 00:22:08,194 --> 00:22:14,834 “The FBI is still investigating Even today in his possible crimes."